The Sikorsky S-43 at the Pima Air and Space Museum, would not have survived had it not been for aircraft recovery pioneers such as Gary Larkins. It was then bought by Lodwick Aircraft Industries, Lakeland, FL in February 1946 where it was first civilian registered as NX69345. A NEW ISSUE FEATURING THE P47 REBUILD IS NOW OUT. Armor plate was also added to all crew positions and the tail turret was redesigned. The first Betty/Ohka strike, toward U.S. aircraft carriers off Kyushu in March 1945, consisted of 18 Bettys escorted by 30 Zeros. THERE IS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF WORK GOING ON IN ANY RESTORATION INVOLVING A HUGE CREW OF PEOPLE. Greinert's first salvage was 1989. It was a reliable plane and while many survived past the war, very few combat veteran B-25s remain. PACIFIC WRECK DATABASE IS AN EXCELLENT PLACE TO START LOOKING FOR WRECKS AND I WOULD RECOMMEND IT TO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO ENGAGE IN THE ACTIVITY OF SAVING HISTORY. I developed a longing to own a WWII fighter to fly but never imagined it possible. Remains of German WWII Junkers Ju 88 bomber recovered from Thames Estuary. One ran off the runway during takeoff from Ie Shima and damaged its landing gear; the other ran out of fuel and ditched short of its destination in Japan. The U.S. Army Air Forces would later try the same thing with its YB-40s, which were B-17s carrying 18 or even more .50-caliber guns, flying as formation escorts. The G4M series was begun late in 1937 at the request of the Japanese Navy, which wanted a land-based bomber that was even better . ITS THEN VERY MUCH ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. What are your feelings about the 'Swamp Ghost'? WE ARE CURENTLY PLANNING A WEB BASED PRODUCT EITHER ATTACHED TO ANOTHER WEBSITE OR A STAND ALONE TO TELL THE WHOLE STORY. After a very lengthy restoration, the American Dream flew again in 2009. WHEN ALL ADDED UP, THE COST OF RECOVERY EXCEEDED THE THEORETICAL "PROJECT VALUE" OF THE WRECK BY A WHOOPING $200,000 USD. Pacific Wrecks has been in contact with Greinert since 2000, and emailed him questions and clarification related to all wrecks he is involved with, and he has reviewed information related to his activities. 35mm 860kv motors. Christopher said . CLARIFICATION IS QUITE LENGTHY, ONCE AGAIN I WOULD REFER YOU TO THE MUSEMS GUIDELINES. SURPLUS MATERIAL IS DONATED. You have salvaged the best P-40, P-47 and P-38. From 1967-1972 Bendix Field Engineering had 45-8835 in Columbia, MD. The day of big-gun ships was over, though the worlds navies didnt yet know it. Why were tourist attractions taken? Had they tried putting a matching mat on the exterior top of the wing tanks as well, the airplane probably would never have gotten off the ground. Destined to be the main Japanese land-based bomber for the entire war, it was, like other Japanese planes, state of the art at the beginning of World War II but grossly outmatched by American models later in the war. Two major portions survive: the nose including the entire flight deck, and ten feet of the fuselage. The British had assembled a Singapore-based task force around the battlecruiser Repulse and the battleship Prince of Wales, with which they intended to protect their Southeast Asian territories. It is estimated that by the end of the war, 5,000 pilots had died making Tokko attacks and the damage they wrought was severe. Greinert surveying The firm changed the wing to a single-spar configuration and installed self-sealing fuel tanks with a capacity about one-third less than earlier versions. CERTAINLY GIVEN THE HIGH COST OF RECOVERY IN PNG AND I FAIL TO SEE HOW ANYONE CAN MAKE A PROFIT. Another BETTY variant became mother ship to the Kugisho Ohka kamikaze, or Tokko (special attack) aircraft (see NASM collection). The NASM G4M Model 34 BETTY is not complete but it is the best-preserved example of this famous aircraft in the world. The Betty design would work. It was the primary dive bomber in the Imperial Japanese Navy, and participated in almost all actions, including Pearl Harbor. I SPEND A LOT OF MY OWN MONEY ON PRESERVING HISTORY. Mitsubishis G4M bomber went by many names, but perhaps the most appropriate would have been flaming coffin.. AND THE ACTIVITIES ARE WELL RECORDED IN PUBLICATIONS AND ALIKE OVER TIME, CREDIBLE MEDIA OUTLETS SUCH AS Classic Wings Magazine PROVIDE EXCELLENT COVERAGE. The Mitsubishi G4M (or "Type 1 land-based attack aircraft") (, Isshiki rikuj kgeki ki, Isshikirikk) was the main twin-engine, land-based bomber used by the Imperial Japanese Navy Air Service in World War II. Robert Greinert interview with Pacific Wrecks Due to these qualities, it was a symbol of Japanese naval aviation. In 1979 along with six other enthusiasts in a garage in suburban Sydney, we formed the Historical Aircraft Restoration Society (HARS). The most comprehensive and authoritative history site on the Internet. C-121C Serial 54-0157 was 'relegation to storage at Davis Monthan Air Base'. What do you feel should be done with remaining relics of war? Talk About Your Organization 'HARS' from Canada Here's how the last D-Day Tank Landing Craft was rescued. Our B-25 is painted in honor of Capt. Join the RAF Museum's Ian Thirsk and Darren Priday as they discuss with the Museum's Seth Paridon and Ed Lengel, PhD, the . their recovery Here are the current restoration projects underway: DONATE NOW . The last B-36 Bomber built in Fort Worth, was restored to museum quality in 4 years and 44,000 man hour plus almost $600.000.00. 30 October: Special Project . I THINK THAT ANY INTELLIGENT THINKING PERSON WOULD SEE THE LOGIC OF A EVEN WELL BALANCED APPROACH WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO DATE. They ranged across the length and breadth of the Pacific Theater, attacking targets from the Aleutians to Australia. Judging by what Allen has done with other such acquisitions, it is possible that this Betty will someday fly again. On October 23, 1939, the Japanese G4M, named the "Betty" bomber by the Allies, made its maiden flight. I LOVE THE PLACE AND THE PEOPLE. The Japanese called them wingtip escorts, assumedly so-named from their position in the main formation, and they were gunned up with extra 20mm cannons in place of light machine guns. The rocket planes were heavymore than 4,700 poundsso the overloaded Bettys carrying them were particularly vulnerable to fighter interception. displays a restored SBD-3 Dauntless dive bomber recovered by the US Navy from underwater in Lake Michigan where it had lain since 1944. Greinert has reviewed, commented and corrected every airframe he is involved with on Pacific Wrecks. Mitsubishi G4M Betty of 4 Kokutai at low level flight. As a result of these modifications, the fuselage was shortened and the center-of-gravity shifted forward. MUCH OF THE STUFF PRINTED IN MAGAZINES, WARBIRD OWNERS LISTS ETC ARE CREATED BY ENTHUSIASTS WHO ARE SCRAMBLING FOR MATERIAL AND WHAT THEY DONT KNOW THEY MAKE UP AND WHAT THEY DO KNOW THEY GENERALLY GET WRONG. Named in honor of General Billy Mitchell, pioneer of American military aviation, the B-25 Mitchell was manufactured by North American Aviation and saw service in every theater of WWII. I TRADE PARTS GLOBALLY SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU CANT GET A LOT OF THE STUFF NEEDED FROM THE JUNGLE. Greinert himself has promoted 'false facts' specifically, on WRG Discussion Board (WIX) under his alias 'Jungle Bob' or writing letters to PNG Museum with allegations about others. The next time the Mitsubishi bombers attacked Allied ships, on February 20, 1942, they were after the U.S. carrier Lexington and its task force. As the war dragged on, improved bombers failed to materialize so Mitsubishi fielded different versions of the G4M to fulfill new missions, and to eliminate the various weaknesses in the basic design. The recovery of the Beaufighters caused a national stir. This extremely rare Bell YP-59A Airacomet is under restoration to flying condition. The Allies called it the BETTY but to the men that flew the airplane, it was popularly, but unofficially, the 'Hamaki,' Japanese for cigar, in honor of the airplane's rotund, cigar-shaped fuselage. At Sioux Falls last summer, a good friend of Alan happened to find us, and we were thrilled to see him! A WW2 bomber crashes on an island that turns out to be inhabited by an all-female society, whose mating rituals entail the death of the male. ONCE LOCATED WE DO THE RESEARCH TO DETERMINE THE STORY AND MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO MIA ISSUES INVOLVED. You have salvaged a variety of aircraft from PNG that were displayed at airports and their museum. THESE THINGS TAKE TIME. The coleslaw was great!! AS FOR TOURISM, IT HAS ITS PLACE, WHEN ON HOLIDAYS I LIKE TO LOOK AT WRECKS BUT WHEN THERES 800 OF THEM TO LOOK AT YOU HAVE TO WONDER. I ONLY RECOVER FOR MY OWN RESTORATION WORK AND PASS ON SURPLUS MATERIAL. THESE GUYS RECENTLY CONDUCTED A SURVEY OF LILLY AND HELEN BOMBERS ON THE PNG NORTH COAST FOR POTENTIAL SALVAGE TO ORDER FOR AN AMERICAN COLLECTOR(S). From the first day of war until after the surrender, BETTY bombers saw service throughout the Pacific and Indian Oceans. If these wrecks are indeed worthless, why are they being salvaged? Four days later, two BETTY bombers landed at Ie Shima Island. THE Solomon Islands government and its people have been warned not to deal with a foreign War Relic Restoration Company, "Warbird Restoration Pty Ltd" that is currently in the country in an attempt to salvage old world war planes, in exchange for doubtful dollar. VIROYA Military Fighter Alloy Die Cast Model, 1/144 Scale Mitsubishi G4M BETTY 1941 Model, Adult Toys And Decorations, 6.7Inch X 5.5Inch Military Knowledge: The G4M, a naval attack aircraft, is the most famous Japanese bomber in the Pacific War. The Japanese built more of them than any other bomber during World War II. It was not recovered, rather restored in Arizona & flew itself to Australia and is registered as VH-EAG, Papua The 'Betty', as the Mitsubishi bomber was called in the Allied code, proved itself an excellent combat aircraft on all fronts. While inbound to Ie Shima, the surrender planes were met by U.S. P-38s and B-25s. Hasegawa Item # hsg00550. Anti-aircraft guns decimated them. HistoryNet.com is brought to you by HistoryNet LLC, the worlds largest publisher of history magazines. The tail of the Betty Bomber. See more ideas about mitsubishi, wwii aircraft, imperial japanese navy. Mitsubishi produced a total of 2,414 G4M airplanes but few remained when the war ended on August 15, 1945. G3Ms attacked in large vee formations of 27 aircraft stacked in nine mini-vees of three aircraft each, a formation-flying nightmare. LIKE I SAID, ANYBODY INTERESTED IN THIS SORT OF WORK SHOULD APPLY TO THE MUSEUM FOR A SET OF GUIDELINES. We called her Betty. A G4M1 and a G6M1-L, whitewashed and given green-cross insignia, carried a group of Japanese officers assigned the job of arranging the details of surrender negotiations. As Yamamoto flew south 16 US P38 Lightnings were heading north from Honiara to intercept him. I BELIEVE PEOPLE WILL ENJOY IT. Just when the B-25 bomber was considered the most modern aviation technology, Maj. Paul I. I RECENTLY COMPLETED A SURVEY FOR THE PNG MUSEUMS BOARD OF TRUSTEES ON A PARTICULAR AIRCRAFT AND DID THE NUMBERS ON THE SALVAGE COSTS. I HAD TO PAY MY OWN AIRFARES, ACCOMODATION AND ALIKE SO THERE WAS NO GOVERNMENT FREEBIES. The NASM G4M Model 34 BETTY is not complete but it is the best-preserved example of this famous aircraft in the world. I PREFER TO HAVE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF ORIGINAL MATERIAL IN THE REBUILD AS POSSIBLE AND I GO TO EXTRAORDINARY LENGTHS TO SEE THAT IS ACHIEVED. The Betty stocked some 37 Japanese bomber groups . It's a good day when Dick Cole stops by for a visit, and at Winds Over Houston, Dick came by to say hi and even did a short little interview for us. $34.95. What do you say to those worldwide who would like to visit this wreck, and see it remain there the way the war left it? ITS THE SAME SET OF RULES THAT I FOLLOW AND IT WILL NOT VARY FOR ANYONE ELSE. WE FORWARD PLAN UP TO FIVE YEARS IN ADVANCE. What do you consider yourself: Language: English. The bomber crew (little Arthur Askey & co) try to avoid betrothal, while convincing the girls to update their traditions. Robert Greinert with P-47 IAN WHITNEY WAS A MEMBER OF THE RECOVERY TEAM AND EVENTUALLY RECIEVED THE WORST AIRFRAME OF THE TWO SALVAGED. Date - 07/02/2021 20:15:39. Mitsubishi also learned that the heavy cannons compromised the Bettys handling. CLARIFICATION The first production G4M rolled off the line in April 1941. Anson Interior. salvager, restorer? Clear front, dorsal and rear turret canopies. Planes of Fame did not salvage any Pacific Wreck. I DONATED A PILE OF [ P-47D "Frankie" 42-8130 ] AND P-40 STUFF [P-40K and P-40K] TO PIMA [ Air & Space Museum ] A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BY WAY OF DONATION. Based at Ng Whare Waatea marae in Mangere, it is located in the middle of the biggest Mori population in Aotearoa. Video is up and was made by the devoted Justwingit, John Kohne. SIMPLY PERSONEL SATISFACTION KNOWING THAT THE STORY CAN BE TOLD FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. Rather, P-39s are being restored by Precision Aerospace, Greinert Aircraft List HASNT BEEN DONE BEFORE ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. THE ENGINEERING INVOLVED IN SOME CASES IS QUITE MIND NUMBING, CURRENTLY WE ARE INVOLVED IN THE MANUFACTURE OF NEW CENTRE SECTION SPARS FOR THE PNG MUSEUMS P38. When it first appeared west of the Gilbert Islands, the Allies were surprised and thought . The Mitsubishis were large, ponderous targets and needed to follow stable courses during torpedo runs. Casualties were horrific. Now they revived the technique with night torpedo missions against U.S. ships that were essentially blind. Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, architect of the Pearl Harbor attack, died on April 18, 1943, along with his entire staff when U. S. Army Air Corps P-38 Lightnings (see NASM collection) intercepted and destroyed the two BETTY bombers that carried them. OBVIOUSLY THAT CANT BE ACHIEVED FOR ALL WRECKS AS THERE WOULD NO WHERE TO PUT ALL THE DC3'S FOR EXAMPLE. It was propelled by a tiny radial engine fueled by kerosene and compressed air, and had a surprisingly sophisticated automatic roll-control mechanism. But as Allied fighter strength increased, the BETTY began to reveal its fatal vulnerabilities. Many one-of-a-kind aircraft on display in museums owe their existence to wreck chasers. Firstly the preservation of the memory of those involved in its manufacture and operation. In the early days of the Second World War Japan had no independent Air Force, so the Navy pushed the whole project through and got mass production started in the early 1940's. By all accounts she was a good aeroplane, with a long range which revolutionized air operations by the Japanese in the Pacific. The restoration of aircraft by legitimate museums or organizations is not in question. Homeward bound, the Bettys were appropriately snakebit. history and its preservation", Anson Nose Section salvager and restorer, and owner of World War II aircraft at HARS. It was delivered to RFC, Walnut Ridge, AR in October 1945. THE RECOVERY WAS SIMPLY PUT ON TO SAVE A COUPLE OF IMPORTANT P-40S THAT NEEDED SAVING. Japan's newest and most advanced bomber made the trip, disassembled and stacked on five ox-drawn farm carts, over unpaved roads! RECOVERYS ARE CONDUCTED THOUGHTFULLY AND BASED ON A GENUINE NEED BASIS, NOT ONE OF COMMERCIAL EXPLOITATION. How much of salvaged aircraft can actually be used? This model is designed and tested at 1/900th scale, but up-scaling and down-scaling are possible. I DONT CONSIDER MYSELF AS ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR. I FIRST TRAVELLED TO PNG IN 1984. A VERY SELECT SAMPLE FOR SPECIFIC PURPOSES IS MORE LIKE WHAT I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN. Air Force photo by . Aug 21, 2018 - Explore Frank Castrillo's board "Mitsubishi G4M/G6M.Betty bomber", followed by 271 people on Pinterest. What is wreckage used for when exported? I BELIEVE IT WAS CHARLES DARBY WHO SUCCINTLY PUT IT THAT "ALL WRECKS" SHOULD BE SAVED WHERE POSSIBLE FOR POSTERITY. He took over work on the Betty after returning from a fact-finding trip to the U.S. in 1938. Japanese "Betty" bomber near Darwin. Hand held and operating through a 20-degree arc, it required a pursuing fighter to voluntarily position itself within the cannons tiny field of fire, though this limitation was removed in later versions of the Betty. War relics with remains aboard are consider 'war graves' by the United States, Japan and Australia a very different classification all three countries make efforts to recover remains only from these sites, Beaufighter A19-144 Nobody is sure how many torpedoes hit the two British battlewagons, but three days after Pearl Harbor, wave after wave of Nells and Bettys achieved at least nine Type 91 hits and possibly as many as 21. The B-25 is not under threat of scrapping. MANY LANDOWNERS HAPPILY SCRAP THE WRECKS IN EXCHANGE FOR A FEW KINA. After the war, the USAAF was test-flying at least one Betty that had been captured in the Philippines, one of four or five flyable G4Ms that the U.S. liberated. What are the Museum's Salvage Guidelines? WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO UNDERTAKE A PROFIT MAKING EXERCISE. THERE IS ALSO A CERTAIN ELEMENT OF URGENCY AS WRECKS ARE DISSAPEARING AT A FAIRLY RAPID RATE DUE TO MOTHER NATURE AND MAN. THE RESTORATIONS ARE BEING CONDUCTED ON A FREE OF CHARGE BASIS WITH COMPLETION DATES. What challenges do wrecks salvaged from PNG present? ARRANGEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE FOR THEM TO BE RETURNED AT THE COMPLETION OF THE RESTORATION CYCLE UNLESS THE MUSEUM CHOOSES OTHERWISE. To re-balance the bomber, dihedral was added to the horizontal stabilizer. 2011-2016 Texas Flying Legends Museum, All Right Reserved. We are now sought out by governments and institutions, nationally and internationally, for our expertise in the restoration and operation of vintage aircraft. What do you consider yourself: salvager, restorer? HOW OTHERS SEE IT IS THEIR BUSINESS. The 345th Bomb Group Association reunion, November 8-12, 2012, commemorated the 70th anniversary of the group's activation at Columbia Army Air Base on November 11, 1942. After arriving at the airfield, the first G4M was reassembled and flown by test pilot Katsuzo Shima on October 23, 1939. A LOT OF THE SPECULATION AND MYTH PROMOTED BY PEOPLE SUCH AS YOURSELF WILL BE DEALT WITH. SO WHAT WAS THE POINT? The tail section may have been in bad shape and all the glazing and weaponry was missing. RESTORATION IS BEING CONDUCTED TO THE HIGHEST MUSEUM STANDARDS WITH EXTREME EMPHASIS ON ORIGINALITY AND COMPLETENESS. Greinert was responsible for having its salvage permit re-issued, a permit that was deemed illegal by the PAC.]. Many items from the PNG museum's collection were removed in late 2000-1 by yourself and '75 Squadron' Bettys Dream first flew in March of 1999 including its new bomb bay doors which were taken off while it was being used as a fire bomber. PACIFIC AIRCRAFT WRECKS AND WHERE TO FIND THEM BY CHARLES DARBY IS ALSO ANOTHER USEFULL STARTING POINT. The Mitsubishi G4M Type 1 "Betty" was a medium bomber used by the Imperial Japanese Navy during WWII. Four days later, two BETTY bombers landed at Ie Shima Island. Betty La Bomba is a damage champion, capable of outputting massive area damage from long range and zoning control on the map. This version was called the G4M Model 34. PNG's population is not starving or lacing 'basics of life', (Americans do not have universal health care / meds!) . Subscribe to receive our weekly newsletter with top stories from master historians. Number built: 1,486 (470 D3A1), (1,016 D3A2) The Aichi D3A, Allied reporting name "Val" was a World War II carrier-borne dive bomber of the Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN). At the age of 19 I hauled back to Sydney with a friend the remains of an Avro Anson cockpit which was my first restoration effort. AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE, LEAVING STUFF IN THE BUSH DOES NOT CAUSE HISTORY TO BE SAVED NOR THE STORY TOLD. Honjo had studied bomber design at the Junkers works in Germany, and was responsible for the G3M. C-121C Serial 54-0157 was 'relegation to storage at Davis Monthan Air Base'. How relics are owned by the state, but also how local compensation and tourism supersede removal, CLARIFICATION Betty was actually a waitress in Pennsylvania. The B-25 was crewed by six men; pilot, copilot, bombardier or nose gunner, radio operator or waist gunner, flight engineer or navigator and tail gunner. But the larger majority of wrecks have been stripped by visitors, not local people (instruments, guns, etc). Fifteen of the 17 unescorted Bettys were shot down. SO YOU MISSED ALL THE MAGAZINES AND ARTICLES COVERING ALL THE WRECK RECOVERYS ETC. It was the first gun ever fired from an airplane, a Wright Model B Flyer, in 1912. Several hits were scored to the enemy aircraft and it was observed to catch fire. Assigned to an unknown Kktai (Air Group). TOO MANY TO RECOUNT. History is who we are and why we are the way we are.. THE MEMORY OF OUR FATHERS IS NOT SERVED WELL BY A PILE OF CUT SCRAP THAT HAS BEEN DRAGGED IN FROM THE BUSH AND SMELTED IN THE LOCAL SCRAPYARD. The deal with Santa Monica somehow got derailed and the hulk was instead acquired by Ed Mahoney, who put in on display in Chinoa wrecked fuselage, inboard wings, engines and nacelleas a jungle diorama. When did you first travel to Papua New Guinea? . 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